For those just escaping their own cloud of stress, the world of self-care products and practices can be slightly daunting. With countless opinions on what to use, when to use it, and how much it should cost, strategizing your own personal self-care routine can become anxiety-inducing and counterproductive. Fortunately, Doree Shafrir and Kate Spencer are here to save the day with their new podcast, Forever 35.

Forever 35 follows two over-35 hosts as they discuss both their own self-care practices and those of their guests and listeners. They talk about everything from sheet masks to using bidets and every Sephora sale in between. Both Shafrir and Spencer are writers and podcasters, and they share their experiences with incredible wisdom and charisma, plus a dash of Saturday Night Live’sNPR: Delicious Dish” sketch.

Guests on Forever 35 have thus far included Jenny Han, author of the trilogy To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before; Danielle Henderson, TV writer and author; and Priyanka Mattoo, comedy producer and filmmaker. Each guest brings a fresh take on subjects like work-life balance, meal planning, and lip stains, not to mention top-notch TV and book recommendations.

Listening to an episode of Forever 35 is like sitting down to a proper brunch with your girlfriends, mimosas included. Shafrir and Spencer provide listeners with a comfortable atmosphere, a safe space to ask questions and seek advice on topics they may not feel so secure discussing elsewhere. Through open channels of communication–including their website, direct email address, and social media pages–the hosts answer fan queries on everything from moisturizers to motherhood, and even bring listeners together in their private Facebook group which has exploded into multiple off-shoots for more specific conversations.

If you’re on the hunt for not only a self-care podcast, but a self-care community where serum and bath bomb lovers of all ages are welcome, Forever 35 just might be the space for you.

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